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How to Disable Traction Control and VSC
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RAVMAN   51/M
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Post: #1   PostPosted: May 1, 2006, 12:19 am    Post subject: How to Disable Traction Control and VSC Reply with quote

[EDIT: A shorter version has been posted here Arrow http://RAV4World.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=24363 ]

I ran across the following in Automobile Mag and wondered if it also worked on the 2006 RAV4 Very Happy

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After being continually frustrated with our inability to completely turn off the GS’s traction and stability control system, we recently learned from an anonymous source how to disable the overprotective electro-nanny. Road test coordinator Marc Noordeloos performed the complicated procedure, took a test drive, and, while grinning from ear to ear, pronounced the car transformed. If you own a 2006 GS (or IS), follow these steps and enjoy the slide. Once the car is started, you have thirty seconds to complete the process. With practice, the procedure can be completed in approximately fifteen seconds but, unfortunately, must be repeated each time the car is switched off.

1. Make sure the car is in Park and the parking brake is disengaged before you start the car.
2. Start the engine.
3. Engage the parking brake.
4. Fully depress the brake pedal and then release.
5. Fully depress the brake pedal and then release.
6. Disengage the parking brake.
7. Fully depress and hold down the brake pedal.
8. Engage the parking brake, then disengage it (while holding down the brake pedal).
9. Engage the parking brake, then disengage it (while holding down the brake pedal).
10. Release the brake pedal.
11. Engage the parking brake.
12. Fully depress the brake pedal and then release.
13. Fully depress the brake pedal and then release.

When “Check VSC" is displayed in the multifunction display along with the “Trac-off"ť icon indicator, you'll know that you have successfully completed the procedure.


Anybody want to try it out?
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Post: #2   PostPosted: May 1, 2006, 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats sounds like a cruel joke Kelly! after you go thru all that and it does work.. how do you make it active again??
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Post: #3   PostPosted: May 1, 2006, 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

considering how vsc functions as LSD for 4WD, I really see no point in disabling it. Plus, I tried to drive it hard during rain and I never heard any complains from VSC, despite adding lots of power on twisty mountain roads during rain.
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Post: #4   PostPosted: May 1, 2006, 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like Kelly's excerpt says, this sort of override for the stability control is only temporary until you turn off the engine. The next time you start out it's back on again. I can see wanting to turn it off occasionally when you want to have some fun.
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Post: #5   PostPosted: May 1, 2006, 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone have a wiring diagram? All you need to do is interrupt the road speed signal to the computer that controls the center diff lockup. Install a SPST switch and open that circuit and the system "should" stay engaged regardless of vehicle speed.

I haven't tried this, so take this advice with a grain of salt.

Anyone want to experiment?

John Davies
Spokane WA

EDIT: This is wrong, I thought we were talking about traction control. My mistake. JD


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Post: #6   PostPosted: May 1, 2006, 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

why would you leave it on? I suggest you drive it a bit and decide if you really need an switch or not. System works perfectly and a lot more than what you would think.
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Post: #7   PostPosted: May 5, 2006, 2:43 pm    Post subject: Confirmed, IT WORKS! Reply with quote

I tried this on my RAV today on my way home from work and it works. Follow the procedure and it will turn off VSC until the car is turned off. I didn't notice any difference driving, but I'm still breaking it in, so I'm not driving it hard at all. I'm sure it will be fun to do someday though just to see how different it acts.
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Post: #8   PostPosted: May 5, 2006, 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for posting this, its works great! It is something that I have wanted to be able to do since I upgraded from my gocart like 4.1. but had given up all hope. I suggest that this be posted in the mods section.
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Post: #9   PostPosted: May 6, 2006, 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harold wrote:
I suggest that this be posted in the mods section.


Good idea Very Happy Done Cool
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Post: #10   PostPosted: June 28, 2006, 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey,

I saw this post, and the complexity involved in disabling the traction control...

I did a lot of research on the VSC ecu & system and came up with a way to disable it,

although its on a Caldina GTT not a RAV4, they are both 4wd toyotas right? so it may be worth testing it out...

A bit easier than the process you have listed there!!

its here: http://caldinafaq.blogspot.com

(dont worry... this isnt spam!!)
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Post: #11   PostPosted: June 29, 2006, 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone brave enough to attempt this surgery yet? Confused
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Post: #12   PostPosted: June 30, 2006, 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

karrock wrote:
Anyone brave enough to attempt this surgery yet? Confused

Honestly, I haven't even disabled the VSC yet. I haven't even seen it kick in yet on my RAV, so I'm happy with it so far. I was exiting the highway via a wet, decreasing radius onramp the other day, and it didn't kick in at all. The tires were squealing, the RAV was sliding ever so slightly, and the VSC didn't jump in. So far, I like it, but I reserve the right to change that opinion after it kicks in for the first time Smile

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Post: #13   PostPosted: July 5, 2006, 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tried it today just to see the difference, all I can say is get ready to buy new tires soon if you leave it off all the time. This thing will light up the front tires. Twisted Evil


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Post: #14   PostPosted: July 14, 2006, 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

inane wrote:
hey,

I saw this post, and the complexity involved in disabling the traction control...

I did a lot of research on the VSC ecu & system and came up with a way to disable it,

although its on a Caldina GTT not a RAV4, they are both 4wd toyotas right? so it may be worth testing it out...

A bit easier than the process you have listed there!!

its here: http://caldinafaq.blogspot.com

(dont worry... this isnt spam!!)


I have some experience with these systems but not specifically Toyota's. Certainly one way to defeat this type of safety system is to kill one of the required sensors such as Steering Angle Sensor (SAS), yaw rate sensor (YRS) or lateral accelerometer (LA). The problem is do you lose initialization (zero point) of the sensor when you kill it. I can't tell from the linked page whether you are switching power or communications to/from the SAS. If you killing the power you will loose the center or zero point, and it will have to re-initialize on repower. This is explained in the Toyota TSB VSC STEERING ANGLE SENSOR INITIALIZATION DURING PDS OR AFTER REPAIR (linked in the RAV4World TSB page). A safety problem can occur if it does not rezero at true zero. If so it will be biased in one direction, more prone to false interventions in one direction and less likely to intervene in the other. If you always have the wheel straight ahead at re-power up, you may be o.k. You could switch the communication circuits, but you introduce the risk of odd intermittent faults due to loss of signal integrity i.e. the main ECU is looking for handshake messages every 0,xxx seconds and if it doesn't get it a fault will light. As soon as the handshake comes back the fault is out. A good bump might be enough..........

The brake pedal/parking brake procedure at the top of the list sounds like a major pain, but you don't loose the sensor initialization that is critical to these systems.

Just my 2 cents worth.
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Post: #15   PostPosted: July 19, 2006, 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kelly's procedure at the top worked every time I tried it in my 06 Rav4. Thanks very much. I got bogged today on a very wet beach and needed this info as nothing would move. I'm ready for the next time.
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